Ep #56: Lazy Parenting Isn’t Failing—It’s Winning

Do you often feel that all of these activities you do with your kids that are supposed to be so fun and enjoyable are the exact opposite? Today, I’m going to talk about how to make your life much easier and at the same time, much better. Stay tuned.

Welcome to Parenthood Prep, the only show that helps sleep-deprived parents and overwhelmed parents-to-be successfully navigate those all-important early years with their baby, toddler, and child. If you are ready to provide the best care for your newborn, manage those toddler tantrums, and grow with your child, you’re in the right place. Now here’s your host, baby and parenting expert, Devon Clement. 

Hello and welcome back to the Parenthood Prep podcast. I have been traveling for the last few weeks, so I did a lot of pre-recording that you guys have been hearing. You also heard Margaret do an episode, which I was so excited about. But now I’m back, and I am recording for you in real time. It is so gorgeous out. 

You guys know, I love the beautiful weather, and coming back to this, like perfect spring has been just amazing. So what we’re going to talk about today has to do with what you can do now that it’s spring and summer, and how you can make your parenting easier and more joyful and really get the most out of this, like amazing time of year. But first I want to talk about something else, and that is Chappell Roan. We love her. We love her. 

And while I was away, she did an interview, I think, on a podcast, on Call Her Daddy, and there was a lot of backlash about it, because she was asked if she wanted kids, and she said that everyone she knows that has kids is pretty miserable. They’re sleep deprived, they’re not having any fun. They have, like a lot of little kids, and there was a lot of backlash about that. 

And I thought it was really interesting and also really sad, because instead of saying, you know what, this is an epidemic, people with little kids are really unhappy. Instead, we just said, oh, Chappell Roan doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Oh, whatever. And it just kind of sucks. So first of all, I think a lot of moms felt like she was specifically targeting them. And what’s interesting is she didn’t say moms, she didn’t say any gender. She just said parents, and I don’t see dads jumping in to be like, oh, but being a dad is so great, but it’s so wonderful. She should, like, know how that is. 

And I feel like when people get so overly defensive about something, it’s because the lady doth protests too much. You are allowed to say you’re miserable, and you are allowed to want things to be different, and you are allowed to do things and make choices that are gonna make you less miserable. And you know what? Honestly, if everything is going great for you as a parent and you’re so happy and everything’s wonderful. I mean, of course it is. You’re a podcast listener, but then who cares what Chappell Roan has to say? 

Another commentary that I thought was very relevant is that somebody said, oh, a 27-year-old from the Midwest doesn’t know any young parents who are happy? Like you know, when you live in a culture, and we all live in it, but especially in certain parts of the country, or certain religions or certain types of families, there’s a lot of pressure on young people and young women, particularly, to get married and start having babies right away. And sometimes that’s just not the right thing to do. 

Like, if I could wave a magic wand and change anything, it would be for people, and particularly people socialized as women, to truly be able to have the full amount of information to make a choice about when it’s right for them to become parents. Like I remember when I was in my 20s, I was desperate to get married and have kids, because that was what I was sold as this is what’s gonna make your life amazing. This is what you should be doing. 

And of course, you know, I love babies and I love kids, so I wanted to be just like, surrounded by kids and babies and like doing that, and that was what was going to make me fulfilled as a person, and thank God I did not end up in that situation. Again, maybe that’s right for you. It would not have been right for me to get married to my college boyfriend, or any of the guys I dated in my early 20s, and to start a family at that point, I was not emotionally ready. I was certainly not financially ready, and we want to take these shortcuts. 

So I think that what she had to say, and the response to it, and I have been seeing a lot of positive responses too, it’s not all backlash is really shining a light on what we need to be doing in the bigger picture as a society, to help new parents, to give them more support, to create structures within our communities and within our society that are going to make things easier for people to have babies. 

I mean, I just read something that the Trump administration is thinking about giving everyone, like, a $5,000 bonus if they have a baby. Cool, that’ll get you through, like, a couple of months of daycare, maybe. It’s certainly not going to pay for a lifetime of raising a child. And we really need to think about what we can do to, you know, set up those structures and to fight for that and to call our congress people and tell them, you know, we want support for subsidized child care. We want health care, you know, to be more reasonable, or to have universal health care so that everyone can give birth safely. You know, we want improved maternal mortality outcomes. 

But while those things are happening, which we hope eventually they will be, we also want to know what we can do in the here and now to make our lives as parents easier and to help and support our friends and family that are having kids. So you know, if all the parents around you seem miserable, ask what you can do to help, or think about what you can do to help. And maybe if your kids are older, or you don’t have kids yet, or you have a small baby, and things are going great because you’re taking my advice and listening to the podcast. You know, maybe you can step in and say, you know, how can we support each other? How can we help each other? 

I have a whole episode about how to create communities of help, and how to get the help you need, and how to provide that to other people if you’re able to. So go find that. And we don’t have to be miserable. This doesn’t have to be miserable. And think about, you know, maybe not encouraging your younger friends and family members, like, when are you going to get married? When are you going to have a baby? Because that’s the only thing I care about coming from you. 

And really, that’s a whole other topic I could speak on for hours and hours and hours. So speaking of topics I can speak on, it is the one-year anniversary of the podcast. Actually, today is the day that we premiered. Or maybe, no, maybe it was the 22nd. I think it was 22nd but anyway, this week is the week that the podcast premiered last year. And I have just had such a great time recording for you, all the feedback I’ve gotten that it’s been so helpful, or just that you enjoy listening to it, even if you’re past the baby stage or not in the baby stage yet. And I just love it. 

So I’m so glad that I have been able to do this for you and help and support. So I would love your feedback. I would love your ratings and reviews. I would love your emails, your voicemails, your Instagram messages, slide into my DMs. I would love your questions, anything that you want to share, would be awesome. 

So that’s going to get us into our topic for today, which is about how to make your life as a parent significantly easier, and that is to simplify, to be lazy. You know, I’ve seen the term lazy parenting (positive) bandied about, and I love it. I think people drive – we all drive ourselves crazy trying to create these experiences or do things in this like amazing, like, absolutely go all the way, way. And that’s not what kids want, and that’s not what makes you happy. 

If you’ve ever been to Disney World, like as an adult, and you look around at how many kids are crying, throwing tantrums, especially as we get to the end of the day, and how many parents are like, through gritted teeth, like, I paid a lot of money for you to be here, so you better have a good time, or just look absolutely wretched because they’re like, so wrung out. Like, yes, it’s amazing to go on a special trip, to go to Disney with your kids. Like, I’m not saying don’t do that, but I think we have these expectations that everyone has a level of stamina, kids and adults included, that they don’t have and that they don’t need sleep and rest and just mental downtime, just like breaks, just whatever. 

So do things more simply. Be lazier. It’s going to be so much better for your kids, for yourself, for everyone. What does that look like? What does simplify parenting, lazy parenting look like? Plan very little. On a beautiful day, just go to the park, just take a walk, just do that. Don’t think, oh, we have to go to the bounce house play around that’s, you know, 45 minutes away. Or even, like, a 20 minute drive, and we have to get in the car, and we have to do this and that, or we have to go to the park, and we have to bring every toy that we own, or we have to get, you know, the scooters and everything else if we’re gonna go for a walk.

Like, just walk down the street. My mom is honestly, like the queen of this, and always has been. She said to me once, she was talking about some family friend who had kids, and they were like, doing all these things and getting like, overwhelmed by it. And she said, take him down to the corner, show him a cat and a dog. Tell them you went to the zoo. Kids just want to be with you. They just want to spend time with you. And everything in the world is so brand new to them.

She took us to the Bronx Zoo one day when we were kids, and she said it was like the worst day, because it’s long. There’s a lot of walking. The animals are like, far away. You can hardly see them. It was not the special, wonderful, magical experience she was hoping for. It like took them an hour to drive there, just to get there, to park, to do whatever. You don’t need to do these big, crazy things with your kids all the time. Take them to Petco, let them look at the fish and the hamsters. Let them look at the cats up for adoption. 

Again, take them down to the corner, show them a cat and a dog. Tell them you went to the zoo. I love like parenting tweets, and one of my favorite ones of all time, says, “the tricky thing about parenting is that you work so hard to create these special, magical experiences for your kids, and all they can talk about is how you let them get a Dr Pepper at the gas station once.” Just take them to the gas station and let them have a few sips of soda. Like, that’ll make their year. They don’t need to go to Chuck E Cheese all the time. You know those things are nice once in a while, but you don’t have to go crazy. 

I want to do like an exercise with you. I want you to think about a great day that you had with your kids, like pretty recently, and not what looked like a great day on social media or in the pictures or when you told people about it afterwards, but a day that you truly, truly enjoyed with your kids. And I want you to think about like, what that day looked like and what you did, and chances are, that was a day that you didn’t have a lot planned, that, like, you didn’t all get overstimulated, you didn’t all get hopped up on junk food and excitement and whatever. It was probably a day that you just like, hung out at the house or took them out in the backyard. 

Maybe you did some coloring, maybe you played with Play Doh, like, whatever. Just what was like the most enjoyable time that you’ve had with your kids recently? Maybe it was taking a walk. Who knows? Maybe it was like we sat down and watched a movie together and ate popcorn, and that was, like, so enjoyable. Just do that. 

One of my favorite, favorite things when I was a kid is when we’d like rent a video of a movie that my parents wanted us to watch. Like, I remember, we did the Star Wars trilogy one Saturday at a time, and my dad made popcorn on the stove in the pot, and it was so good and, like, it was such a special thing, and it was so simple. We didn’t even have to go to the movie theater. It cost however much it cost to rent a movie, and the cost of the popcorn, which was obviously way cheaper than movie theater, and we just had the best experience, and it was so, so great. 

So think about those times that you’ve really had an excellent day, an excellent experience, and what did you do? Is it because plans got canceled, so you just relaxed at home? Is it because you did something spontaneous? You know, maybe you did do something, but it wasn’t like a major plan in advance, drive there, spend money, blah, blah, blah. It was just something really basic. 

For Disney, take your kids to Disney like, that’s awesome, but don’t think that you’re going to spend the whole day, morning till night, getting your money’s worth at the park. If your kids are under six, eight, 10. Go to the park in the morning. You know first thing, rope drop. Spend a couple hours. It gets hot. It’s the middle of the day. It’s lunch time. Go back to your hotel or your Airbnb, swim in the pool, or just like, take a nap, sit in the air conditioning, and then go back to the park in the evening. 

It’s like the best way to do things like get rest during the day, because otherwise you’re spending the whole day there and you’re spending half the day miserable. Also bring a stroller, even if your kids are old. I just saw something on Instagram. The mom brings a stroller for her eight and 10 year old. I have been to Disney with kids that are like, four, five, six, we bring a stroller or a wagon. They’re not in the stroller most of the time in their life. 

Obviously, they’re six years old, but the moms trotted out the old stroller, and it was great, because when the kids got tired of walking, or they were too hot in the sun, or one adult wanted to go on a different ride, and the kids wanted to just, like, stroll around, like, just let them be in the stroller and push them, let them take a little nap. We get tired. I would love to be pushed around in a stroller for half the day. Are you kidding? Like they get tired too. 

So build in, if you are doing something super intense, like a vacation, like a theme park, like, you know, the American Girls store, or just coming into New York City, or whatever, build in a lot of breaks and a lot of downtime. Trust me, you will get much more bang for your buck than if you try to force it to do every single little thing. Let’s talk about structured activities. 

First of all, kids’ job is play. They are learning so much from basic just like playing with toys, playing with friends, playing with found objects, like playing by themselves, playing in the bathtub. Like, for us, play sounds like, oh, that’s great. Like, that’s what we do when we’re not working. But for kids, play is their job. They’re learning and growing. And if they’re playing with friends, they’re learning about social interactions and how to care about other people and how to share and just how to interact in the world. 

And then we put them in structured activities. Like, for us, it sounds like, oh my God, dance class. That sounds amazing. I wish I could do a dance class. I wish I could do an art class. I wish I could go to, you know, play soccer on a Saturday afternoon. But for kids, these structured activities are a lot of mental and emotional work for them.

Even if they seem fun, they have to sit still, or they have to line up. They have to do what the coach tells them, or the teacher tells them like they have to be on for that whole time, that whole class. So that is a job for them. That is them going to the office. They need unstructured time to just be, like to just relax. I know a lot of parents want to limit screen time, and that’s great. 

I don’t think kids should be like, staring at screens all the time, but think about when you’ve had, like, a really intense day at work, or been on a trip, and you’re like, walking around a brand new city, and you’re sightseeing, and you’re going to museums, and you’re doing all this stuff, like when you get to that, like restaurant at dinner time, or you just wanna sit in a cafe for a little while, you just wanna pull out your phone and zone out, like or come home from work and just put the TV on and zone out. And kids need that too. 

Like they need downtime, they need rest, they need unstructured activities, and sometimes they need to just veg out on the couch and watch a television show or look at their iPad or read books if you’re doing like no screen time, but don’t make it so that every single minute of their day is planned and stimulating. I know I talk about this a lot. I’ve probably told this story before, but my girlfriend with the twins, you’ve heard me talk about her tons. She works with us now. She’s a sleep trainer. The twins are 16. 

I was her nanny when they were babies, and, you know, at that time, I had a lot of childcare experience, but I wasn’t a sleep trainer yet they weren’t sleeping like at all. I actually started out as her night nanny when they were five months old, because they were just not sleeping, and she needed someone else to get up with them during the night with her because her husband was useless. Now, ex-husband, but that’s a whole other topic. 

But, you know, one day I had kind of started with her pretty recently, and I was helping her out during the daytime. I did like a mix of days and nights, and I asked if I could take them out for a walk. It was beautiful day. I’m like, I’ll take them out for a walk. She said, okay, but not too long, because that’s too passive. They’re five months old. Walking in a stroller is like the number one activity they should be doing. Besides, just like laying on a blanket on the floor, it is not too passive. 

They are getting rest. They are getting downtime. They are also observing the world. They are hearing the birds. They are seeing the trees. They are seeing people, dogs, like all of these things, like is expanding their mind. They don’t need you sitting on the floor holding up flash cards in front of them, when they can be out in the real world experiencing it. And honestly, like 99% of the time, kids love a walk in the stroller. They love it. It’s like their favorite thing, or in the carrier, or whatever. 

And for you, it’s like this is my time to think about whatever I want to think about. Maybe listen to a podcast or some music on your headphones. Maybe you want to just zone out and just push that stroller and walk. Your kids are safe. You don’t have to think about, where are they what are they doing? Are they safe? You’re looking down at them. They’re strapped in. Maybe they fall asleep. Maybe they take a nap. That’s awesome. Maybe you park at the park and you sit on a bench and, you know, read a book or look at your phone or whatever. 

That is everyone’s like, favorite time. That is your downtime, that’s awesome. So like, don’t be afraid to just go take a long walk. It is not too passive. And now, being a parent coach and being a sleep trainer and being a postpartum village, she has like, walked back so many of the things she did as a parent. She’s like, the cautionary tale. Do not be like me. I was wound up all the time. Every time they made a peep, I would like, jump up. That’s why I call it being spring loaded. 

You know, when your kid makes a peep and you like, immediately jump up and run over to them. Like, stop doing that. I’m getting anxious just talking about it like, sit down, take a deep breath. They’re not going to die. Give it a minute. They might just calm down. Or maybe they do want you to respond to them, but if you’re not there in the first millisecond that they’ve made a peep, that’s okay, too. This is how they learn emotional regulation skills. This is how they learn patience. This is how they learn, you know, respect for other people. 

It is not just about what you want all the time. Other people are allowed to have needs and wants too. Birthday parties, people love to do, like, a huge birthday party, which is great, fine. You know, go to Chuck E Cheese or whatever. Have a ton of stuff at the house, but I’ve been to a lot of kid birthday parties. I’ve helped out at a lot of kid birthday parties, and the best ones are the ones where they just play. 

Like, you know, have cake, maybe do a little tea party or something, but then just like, let them play, let them run around. That’s all they want to do. You don’t need a million activities at their birthday party. They can just play and they’re gonna have a better time for it. Like, what I’m telling you is not like, here’s what you can get away with, so that your kids will tolerate their lives. They like this better, okay? 

They like it better when you are just present with them and just hanging out with them. They like it better when they can run around when they want to or sit down when they want to. They like it better they are happier and you are happier when they are happier and things are calm and relaxed and chill. 

Let go of the fear of judgment like sure other parents throw crazy birthday parties and guess what? I bet their kids are miserable. I bet their kids are whiny and tantrum-y and a mess at the end of the day. And you know what? Your kids are going to be calm and happy and go to bed at a decent time. So like, who’s judging who here? Oh, you didn’t have the petting zoo that Riley’s mom had at her party? Who cares? Who cares? But also don’t have birthday parties at your house. Do it where somebody else is doing the cleanup. 

Let go of that fear and look at your kids and look at how happy they are and how calm they are, and how calm you are, and say, wow, I think I’m actually doing the best out of all my friends and all these other parents, because we’re just very chill. You know, I just see and I love it and I hate it, right? People are going so far and doing so much, and it’s all on social media and whatever. Listen, I’m not saying you have to, just like, not cut your kid’s sandwich into a cute shape with a cookie cutter. Do it if you want to do it. If that makes you happy, do it. 

But don’t feel like you have to give them an adorable lunch every day and then you have to make these elaborate gift bags for their teachers and their friends and send stuff to school on their birthdays. And like, get Munchkins. That’s what we grew up on, and it was great. Kids are just as happy with Munchkins as they are with like, fancy cupcakes that you got done at a bakery or made yourself, and honestly, even happier. Because watch a kid eat a cupcake sometime they lick the frosting like three times, and then they get it everywhere, and then they don’t even finish it. And it’s a huge mess. You know, it’s not a huge mess. Munchkins. They love them. 

I’m not sure if they have this everywhere. It’s Dunkin’ Donuts, like donut holes, so I don’t know if you’re listening in Canada, get them Timbits, but just something super simple, like they do not need these elaborate like things. And again, do what you want and enjoy the things that you want to do, but don’t feel you have to do every single thing. 

And speaking of elaborate teacher gifts. As a former teacher and someone who is friends with very many teachers, we do not want elaborate teacher gifts. We do not need them. We want gift cards. We want gift cards for supplies. We want gift cards for classroom stuff. We want gift cards for coffee. We want gift cards to local restaurants. Just get the teachers a gift card. Please, please, please. The cute stuff is great. If you want to get them that like in addition, that’s fine. But if you’re going to spend $30 or even more, making an elaborate gift basket that contains a mug that says, like A+ teacher, they already have 22 of those. Don’t get them another one. They don’t need that. 

Spend that money, spend that time on a gift card and a nice card, have your kid draw a picture for them. That was my favorite thing. I wanted drawings from my kids. I didn’t want mugs that said A plus teacher. I didn’t even have my own apartment at the time. So you don’t have to be so elaborate and crazy to do those things. 

Now, if you say to me, but Devon, my kids don’t play alone. They don’t play independently. I need to do these organized activities. I need to send them to, you know, lessons in classes and camps, because they don’t know how to play alone. And when I try to get them to, all they do is annoy me and whine and climb all over me. Well, that is because, my friends, you did not start them on playing alone when they were babies, but you can fix it. 

And if you have a baby who doesn’t like being alone, start leaving them alone more. Obviously, I don’t mean home alone. You know, put them down on a blanket and go do the dishes. And if they fuss and whine, that’s fine. They’ll find a way to entertain themselves without you swooping in to do it for them, because that is something they have to learn, start cultivating that. Maybe your kids are so over scheduled right now that you need to build in 15 minutes at a time of independent play. Maybe that will grow to half an hour. Maybe it’ll grow to an hour like work on it gradually, and don’t give up. 

Don’t throw in the towel just because it’s not successful the first time. Give them more time to get used to things, and give yourself more time to get used to things, because you need this too. Do not hire a nanny or a babysitter just to entertain your children. Yes, fine. You have a two year old. You have a mother’s helper who comes over and, like, plays with him in the backyard so that you can get stuff done in the house. That’s fine. You know, a couple hours a day, or a couple hours on the weekends, whatever, when, like you are busy, that’s totally fine. 

I’m not saying, you know, don’t let your babysitter play with your kids, but an epidemic that I see, especially here in New York is somebody will hire a nanny because they want their kids stimulated and attended to every minute of the day, and that is just not good for anyone, especially the kids. And then the kids are super annoying on the weekends, because the nanny is in their face all the time during the week, and that’s what they’re used to, and they have no independent play skills. Fine, you don’t want your nanny looking at her phone all the time, but she can look at it as much as you do. You know, they can look at it here and there while the kids are otherwise occupied. 

Actually, to that point, sometimes we have parents say, oh, well, like, I don’t want you to look at your phone all the time, but like, I do want you to respond immediately if I text you. Like, which is it? You don’t get to have both. A lot of nannies will help out with chores like cleaning up or, you know, it’s just sort of standard for a nanny or babysitter to clean up after the kids meals, put the dish in the dress, or maybe prep the meals. Don’t say to them, oh, well, you can do the chores while – sometimes they’ll do the kids laundry. Don’t say to them, oh, you can do the chores while the kids are sleeping. 

Have them do those things while the kids are awake. So much like with you. I recommend this all the time. The kids are seeing what it takes, maybe they’re helping, maybe they’re getting involved in the cooking or the cleanup. Even when they’re little, just a baby sitting in a high chair watching you prep their food, is going to be learning so much more than like, oh, you woke up from your nap and your lunch was magically prepared, and then, oh, you went down for a nap and your toys were magically cleaned up by the cleanup fairies. 

You know what that raises? That raises assholes. Kids that have no understanding or appreciation for what goes into running a family, running a household, being an active member of a family. You know, everybody works together. The gratitude is another thing I see that I think parents find really frustrating. Like, you’ll plan this amazing day for your kids. You’ll take them to the Bronx Zoo or the American Girl store or, you know, whatever, do, like a million things, go out to lunch at a fun place and then they’re tired and they’re miserable and they’re not grateful. 

And meanwhile, you’re like, I just planned the best freaking day ever for you, and you can’t even say thank you. Like they don’t know anything else. Like all they know is that you’ve created these experiences for them. They don’t understand that it’s not something that every kid gets or that they should be so excited about, because it was a special thing for them. Chances are, if you’re doing this for them. Once you do it all the time. I mean, Erica did this with her kids as they got older. My friend with the twins. 

She would plan these like crazy days and then get so frustrated that they were whining or cranky or whatever, and she’s like, I just planned the best day for you. Can you please just give me a break? That is not how kids brains work. Okay? So again, keep it simple. And you know, maybe tell them like, this is a special treat. This is a special day. This is not something that other kids get to do all the time. This is not something that we are going to do all the time. This is something that, you know, we’re doing this one day, and it’s going to be a special thing. And I worked really hard to plan this for you. 

You’re allowed to tell them that they’re allowed to know that things don’t just magically happen, don’t just magically appear before them, because that’s also going to set them up for success as adults. Also like if they’re doing crazy special things all the time, getting special treats all the time, stopping at the bakery on the way home from school every day and getting a cookie, that thing is no longer a special treat. It’s just normal. It’s just their norm. And then you have kids that just constantly want all these things because you’ve created this routine that this is the normal. And then, frankly, there’s not a lot you can use to reward them, to get them to do what you want.

Sometimes when I work with a sleep training family, you know, I had an episode about reward charts, and I say, you know, what are we going to do for a reward? I’m like, oh, maybe like ice cream, or maybe like a movie day or a new toy. They’re like, oh, we get new toys all the time. Oh, we have ice cream every day. Like, you got to keep some stuff in reserve to actually be a special treat. And frankly, kids get used to whatever that level is. 

So if they get like a fancy cookie from the bakery every day, that’s what they think a cookie is. They don’t know about packaged cookies that are just sort of regular versus like the special cookie. They only know about the special cookie. So keep that specialness, you know, keep it available to you so that you can light up their day, that you can do something amazing, like, oh, we’re gonna get a cookie from the bakery today. What? That’s incredible. You know, either be for a reason or because you just want to. 

But when it becomes the norm and it’s every day, everyone gets bored of it, and it’s just normal. So I’m gonna leave it here. I’ve been rambling for far too long. Keep it simple. Just relax, just play. Just let them have downtime. Let them do what they want to do. Don’t structure and schedule every single minute. Don’t think that every single thing you do has to be like Pinterest worthy, Instagram worthy, social media worthy. 

Just sometimes, let them have a normal sandwich cut in half for lunch. Make them make their own lunch. Help them learn how to make their own lunch, and if they want to cut it with a cookie cutter, then that’s great. That’s a fun thing for them. Don’t feel like every parent is out here doing every single amazing thing that you see on the internet, because first of all, they’re not. And if they are, their kids are assholes. Okay, do not raise asshole kids by going above and beyond for them constantly, because you know what, they’re gonna start to expect that from everyone in their life, and then they’re gonna be asshole adults. So lazy parenting, simplify, make everyone happier and make everyone’s life better by doing less. Talk to you soon.

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